Okay, I left out some potentially important info. It was okay but as a designer there were definitely things I didn't like about it. #builtwithat. There's very little separating an ffr from a trans am car. The downside with the vette is they r so damn expensive to modify where as shelby r cheap for mods. There is a great community there, build threads if you are trying to determine what is involved in a build, and the like. Premium carpeting w/ bound edges for trunk and cockpit. Our NEXT GENERATION RT4 Classic Edition features a more traditional take on Roadster styling, with polished stainless steel side pipes and halibrand style wheels. Every time I am fatigued by the exhaust volume in less than 10 minutes and never get the chance to have any fun with them. I notice the springs top plates aren't in the same location. How important is weather protection and comfort? Backdraft ones are very nice, well built, and hold value pretty well Where did you see Backdraft for $46K? Overlay carpets for drivers and passenger side. Thanks. 2"x4" rectangular steel ladder style frame with front crush zone. I am not sure a Daytona is a step up. #builtwithattitide #carsw, The Superman Edition! If anything, Ill have a better view of the suspension. One of the guys in our local Cobra club has a BD. The cheapest Backdraft currently on Hemming is around $76K. Okay, I left out some potentially important info. GT40 Tech Talk -- MK1 - MKII - MKIII - MKIV, Club Cobra Introduction Forum (introduce yourself), B & B Cobra's --- Speak with Bryan Anderson, Cobra's by Emerson----Speak with Bill Emerson. Had a ridiculously loud big block Ford in it with unbaffled side pipes so I really couldn't stand to drive it long enough to get a real impression. If you have around $45K would you get a Shelby Cobra Factory Five or Superformance, well built C6 Z06 or a C7 Z51? It's nice. Biggest thing I noticed was the additional legroom and the wider foot box. Every vehicle has its purpose. Only complaints I heard were that the some of the BMW bits used weren't up to handling the power if you dropped big block in it. All for sale! Yes, they still use E36 suspension, rearend and brakes. Does it depend on the donor car, suspension set up, which engine used, etc.? New posts Search forums Advanced search. Have you ever dealt with a high-horsepower/short wheelbase combo? Club Cobra . i just love the rawness of that car and it only weighs like 2600ish pounds. #builtwithattitude #happyeaster #coo, Can you guess where this roadster is? SPF roller= $42K+. Thanks for the responses. Take weather protection into account, because Cobras don't really have any. I was driving today and applied the clutch only to have the driver's seat slider give way and fully Hi All, new owner here. That said, the Factory Five suspension componentsare completely adjustable on all four corners and the chassis is track proven so you certainly have plenty of levers to mess with. I spoke with James today. Proof that the Ford Pinto makes a capable street machine? The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo . The cobra is not the fastest around a track in that group but it is awesome looking and sounding. Moving the differential forward a half of an inch may give me enough clearance to stop the rubbing. Every trip I take in my 7, includes people recording me as they pass, or pictures taken of it in parking lots, or questions at gas stations "What is it? In fact, these Cobra replicas can be special-ordered by specific color, equipment, and features. Abarth. The Covette is BY FAR the better car, but I'd bet the Cobra is a whole lot more fun, even just driven normally, to ice cream and back. I really enjoyed the FFR build process but I ended up over-building a custom car made just for me that I didn't want to beat on. @b, Come see whats hiding under the covers this wee, Happy Easter! I want to register an account for free right now! Keeping temperatures in check is an aluminum radiator equipped with thermostatically controlled electric fan. This is why the FFR spec racer was made. The guy had to get a lawyer involved and it was eventually registered as a 1966 "replica". My car started to shudder when I would take off in 1st gear about the same time I saw the scratches on the cv joint flange. In today's issue of "there's always someone crazier than you", FB find of the day? General thing I've been told on what to look for (on the Factory five front) for a track buildis IRS and a small-block (either Coyote or SBF). There are really too many variables. Location: Washington State. NMNA, 99-03 Ford Mustang Cobra 8.8 IRS differential 3.27 gears and 31 spline trac loc. For an introvert like myself, I enjoy my very capable cave. I drove it 8 hours round-trip to an autocross event, and I kid you not - the trip there and back was as fun if not more fun than the event itself. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. 2012-2015 BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum. I'm in the process of building a Factory Five MKIV roadster - so take my comments with a bit of bias. Any opinions on backdrafts cobra replicas? - Club Cobra. Those dictate your answer. Also I would do both sides even if the other side is good. 2023 Historic Races (Pacific Raceways) July 1. https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/foru.all-and-tuning Seemed to be a nice piece of kit. Jul 17, 2017. The Cobra came with a 408 Stroker rated at 530 horsepower. This Cobra is Avis Blue with pearl white racing stripes, and it is a shining example of Backdraft's craftsmanship and superb engineering. Also, Im not seeing any sub frame cracks/ weld failures. Of course, for as little as you plan to drive, the Cobra would probably be fine. Required a portapower and big levers. He has to buy it in kit form or have one built up there. I want to register an account for free right now. I cringe at even ascratch. The Daytona Coupe kit is the direction I would go. YES! Run the exhaust out the back with real mufflers and cats and it won't be loud. Although it is indeed a solid kit, It's taking an astounding quantity of massaging to get it together nicely. Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I'm really thinking about pulling the trigger on a BDR Cobra in the next few months. BACKDRAFT OWNERS GROUP Group Maintained by Cashburn Gathering spot on ClubCobra for current and former owners of Backdraft Racing Roadsters. Backdraft 427 ; Build: June 2022. 2. The World's largest presumably it'll depend on who build it but I was wondering if there is any specific areas that can show the quality of the build. Just press the go pedal a little harder. 4. Sitting here in the puts at NCM thoroughly enjoying the smile this c7 Grand Sport is putting on my face each and every session. Go drive one. Cross shopping a Corvette, all the work is done for you and it's comfortable and weather tight. #builtwithattitude #carswi, We love this candy cane! Many have done it and they look pretty nice. If you are looking to purchase a pre-built Factory Five (or another one of the kit companies) there is more variance as you are reliant on the guy who built it so quality can vary drastically. There is simply no room under there. Im referring to the bushings in the the sub frame not the differential cover. Good luck with your pick! I would imagine it's pretty close. Boots seem good to me. Must be a member and logged in to read posts or post in this Forum. The dashboard is made out of carbon fiber and features Auto X red-faced gauges and a SABELT leather steering wheel. 5) If you build you will likely not get yourmoney out of it if you sell - that said good builds will go 50K-ish so its not like you will take a huge bath. Genuine leather seats. No grease spatter. All Makes. check out the. They're not just cars to stick golf clubs in and look silly, like a Rolla Royce nosed VW Beetle. I plan to drop the car off with James at Radical Roadsters as soon as his schedule frees up. 3. Also, I noticed yesterday that there was grease splatter above each drive shaft yoke. He cannot buy a finished running car and import it into Canada. Wide seats allow for plenty of comfort and space, and extra leg room not an issue. Has anyone ever considered this idea, or done it? Resale value when you buy it second hand from the first owner is where you save the most cash. As recommended, this weekend I plan to remove the wheels, spring, shocks and check the full range of the suspension to see what may be causing the rubbing. Fundamentally, they are based on a very old car so they won't perform like a Z06. Our NEXT GENERATION RT4B BLACK EDITION features a traditional Roadster build, with our amped up, custom Black Out Package, to add maximum wow factor. the weld and shadows make it look like a crack. How are these kit cars to drive on the track and for autocross? Good engine or bad is another part of the recipe. 1) TheFactoryFiveForum.comand FFcars.com are invaluable when it comes to information on these things. He was very friendly and willing to help. But it seems like everyone has these 2 cars in town. Does anyone know how much clearance should I gave between the top of the sub frame / carrier? 6) If pre-built - can't really go wrong with a Superformance or Backdraft. You can buy one hell of a complete FFR or Backdraft for 45K built and ready to go. 2023 Motorsport Marketing. Good cars, very fast,but kinda in a treat it wrong and it will bite kind of way. Same reason I painted the 550 spyder the way I did. View All Members Showing 10 of 215 Member (s) socalliving Bob K HBW mattbrowne hauss Steve Gallegos Cashburn Quentin Z SGwick jace9203 View Pictures Showing 5 of 77 Picture (s) From CUZECAN From CUZECAN Are you saying that the differential slide back causing the inner output flanges to rub the sub frame above? Especially because the car drove great the last time I drove it. More Backdraft Racing Classics Cobra. I'm now prepping an Exocet race chassis which has the raw fun without the expensive body. It's been a while since I was in the Cobra community, but the Backdraft cars were well regarded for the most part. In the mid 90's I built a Cobra replica from a local company called Component Craft. Seems your pics are not displaying in the correct orientation for others to view. YES! Kirkham Cobra, CSX Cobra, Backdraft Cobra, Factory Five . Their build quality is on point, and the car's aesthetics are extremely similar to the original Cobra at a much lower price point than it's expensive rivals (Superformance, Kirkham, etc.) It does look like the differential shifted towards the rear car. 10 innovative ways to go faster on track using data, Placing our virtual Nissan 350Z Inside a virtual wind tunnel | Against the wind: Part 2. and a single barrel carb?? I check this area often but like I said after I did this it has not failed .It has been about 2 years. . FFR = depends. . I know someone (well, know OF him, now, it's been a couple decades) who bought a Superformance with track time intent. I took another pic from different angle. So then I built a C5Z track rat which is great but not that special. Kids with straight piped VQs bow before the king of annoyingly loud that is a "cobra". Still a "replica" "continuation car" or "tribute" but its different from a kit built in your garage. Hi all, I know I posted my questionabout comparing C6 Z06 andC7 Z51 but today my wife and I saw a Shelby Cobra (presumably either Factory Five or Superformance) on the road and she asked why I don't get one of those instead. I worked on one for a customer. I'm a really big fan of the FFRs, I rode in one for about 6 hours one day (to the FFR Open House and back) with a standard 4 link suspension and found the ride to be very comfortable. Airstream. I think they look awesome. I love the car and I enjoy working on cars but this is very frustrating. I think they look awesome. David Kee Toploader Transmissions Inc. New posts New media New media comments Latest activity. for the body shape and noise it makes, I don't see a problem with a 5.0 fox body conversion kit, which I think is ~$45-55k if properly built on a clean donor car. What's new. Some of that is the supplied parts some of that is the kit itself. Combining 60s styling with advances in modern technology, our Roadsters include features like full independent suspension and power disc brakes, giving the car the ride and handling of a true sports car that feels as much at home on the road as as does on the track. Because our roadsters are limited production, hand built component cars, we have lots of custom options for you to choose from, like ceramic coated black side pipes and roll bars, 18 matte black coated rims and many interior options. ive been in both the vettes and new shelbys and liked em both. A little bit rarer than the Cobra, and aroof and being able to use A/C has its advantages. The passenger side trailing arm has a bunch washers between the bushing and the trailing arm bracket. The grease you are seeing is coming from the cv joint they are packed full of grease I would bet that the bolts are broken or something is amiss with your cv joint. Yes, they still use E36 suspension, rearend and brakes. With a menacing appearance backed by potent performance, this beautiful beast surely won't last long on the market. The cantilevered shifter feels right in a chunderheaded expedience sort of way. On costs: Backdraft roller = $28.9 k+. You could hear it coming from over a quarter mile away. When it comes to handling, more BMW-sourced components were installed including a full independent rear suspension with fully adjustable coil over dampers and a front suspension with coil over front struts. Anyone in LA area willing to enable Radwood silliness? Posts: 1,110,018, . ), https://4xshaft.com/blogs/general-teveshaft-angles, https://store.activeautowerke.com/coracket-dsb-e36, https://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E36-32n/Control_Arm/, https://superpro.com.au/find/superpr/cid-999500343, https://www.powerflexusa.com/shop/prory=1783#attr=, https://www.garagistic.com/products/xoCHbUQAvD_BwE, https://www.nolathane.com/collection4831232?page=2, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0?ie=UTF8&psc=1. Have a friend who might be wanting to sell his well prepped supercharged ffr. Thanks for the help! Struts up front with the BMW IRS. by xb-60. Even through the language barrier, the love of cars translates. And a remote shifter seems like the correct fix for the goofball shifter setup. I helped put together a superformance for a friend and it was awesome. im only 5'6 so the height issue wont be a problem and i know the cobra is a beast and i only want it as a toy, not a dd. This is why I do have a lot of thumbs up to give for Factory Five. I want to register an account for free right now! If it's your dream car, do it. 302 with FiTech and Under Car Exhaust, Heat & A/C, Rod Top. This menacing Cobra replica is slathered in a stealthy Black Magic paint topped with Magnetic Grey stripes . : For registered members this ad will NOT show. It makes for a very fun, and capable car (independent rear) think of an old M-roadster on a serious steroid injection with the ability to fit 305-width tires. Drives: Charger HC, Backdraft Cobra. you buy a backdraft to have a comfortable cobra that you can DD on sunny months. I love yours! 1966 AC Cobra from backdraft with roush 427ci with 550hp 2. It all boils down to whether the Datsun should be displayed or destroyed. Don"t just put back the new bolts tap the threads then locktight red then new bolts. we serve regional and national members with an in-depth forum and archive of vehicle information. If you know of some usernames that are not members of the group yet, let me know so I can invite Well I finally got some dates on the parts my engine builder has been waiting on. Manufacturers, Engine Builders, tools, and parts. Well, I actually have been thinking/considering the Shelby Cobra (replica/kit car) and since my wife encouraged me to get one I am obligated to at least investigate my options. I see these at cars and coffee all the time there insanely quick! Representation from nearly all Cobra/Daytona/GT40 manufacturers Help from all over the world for your questions Build logs for you and all members Blogs Image Gallery Many thousands of members and nearly 1 million posts! Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft w/ 427IR Posts: 83 Not Ranked As recommended, this weekend I plan to remove the wheels, spring, shocks and check the full range of the suspension to see what may be causing the rubbing. Nostalgic Motoring Company, an official dealer for Backdraft, is excited to offer the opportunity to take home this brand new 1965 Backdraft Cobra RT4B replica with plenty of attitude. RT4B and Tremec TKX speed sensor question? Backdraft Racing | Factory Five Racing Forum Backdraft Racing Filters Fuel pump replacement coatin20 Oct 12, 2022 6 626 Dec 11, 2022 by coatin20 Post Pictures of your Backdraft ! FFR #7388 - Mk 4 Complete Kit w/ IRS, Ordered 10/21/10, Delivered 12/8/10. If so, what do you think of the performance. What to look for when looking at one of these? All Cobras, all the time. After that they hold value amazingly. We do stock RT4s and have access to Backdraft's in-build and landed inventory. How to wire a cross-pollinated engine swap | Swap Science, Fiat 124 Spider: What you need to know before you buy, 30 years later, this Honda Civic Si is still hunting for more speed. This 1965 Backdraft Cobra Roadster for sale has a Roush Racing 427R V8 w/ 4bbl Carb (554hp/513 Lb-Ft), 5 Speed Tremec TKO600 Transmission, Independent Rear w/ Limited Slip Differential, Lamborghini Grigio Telestro Exterior w/ Black Stripes, Accent. MK4 #8900 - complete kit - Coyote, TKO600, IRS - Delivered 6/28/16 First Start 10/6/16 Go cart - 10/16/16 Build completed - 4/26/17 - 302 days to build my 302 CI Coyote Cobra - Registered and street legal 5/17/17. I'm still searching for the cause of the subframe rubbing before shipping the car to Radical Roadsters. berkeleying fast as hell though. 4) This question is abit too late for me - my decision was made - Cobra all the way! Does anyone have a lead on 17" knock offs rears or fronts? Grab This Rare 1966 Plymouth Satellite 426 Hemi, Snag A Show-Stopping 1970 Dodge Challenger Restomod. Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft #1799 5.0L Gen 3 Coyote Posts: 21 Not Ranked The Factory Five Forum has an entire sub-forum dedicated to the Coyote Build. Whatever, if you are going to have a measuring contest, at least get the facts straight. Colonel . The World's largest It was a 6 month process to get a title issued for it here in Oregon. The only things louder on the streets are lifted diesels. A paint protection film was installed to guard the paint against any road debris. I know a guy down here in nor cal with one for sale comes with a side oiler 427 in it Beautiful car and has raw power think it would do 120 in 2nd lol. Stopping is provided by BMW-sourced 4-wheel power disc brakes clamped by red-painted brake calipers. Checked cv joint boots for leaks. It's not a direct comparison. Industry news, Press Releases, Notifications. Base coat, clear coat painted finish. @barrett_j, Four beautiful builds on display! Ill keep everyone posted on whats found. Sergio Feb 24, 2011 18 12K Nov 5, 2022 by coatin20 Fuel pump replacement coatin20 Oct 12, 2022 1 348 Oct 17, 2022 by postal S Vented gas cap swampfoxIV Jul 7, 2020 10 4K Pete. Under the bonnet is a 345 BHP 302 CID built by Ford Racing, coupled with a World Class T5 Transmission and hydraulic lifters. 3081 . Why not get both? Appreciate 0 Quote 01-27-2017, 07:00 PM #24: Maynard. I've never driven one so what do I know, but all of your issues (and they're real, except for the touching the road part) seem pretty fixable. When I decided to build another Cobra replica and with the aid of the internet I did a ton of research before settling on FFR. 2023 Motorsport Marketing. No experience with kit cars but after 15 years trying to keep things running all weekend, this seems too good to be true. You can get a well-built z for $30-45 that will shred the track. Thanks again. The heart of the beast is a Roush 427cui V8 engine that pumps out a healthy 550-horsepower shifted down to the rear wheels by a Tremec TKO 600 five-speed manual transmission. Vented brakes, cooled diff, dry sump, 315/335 NT01s fit, and all with a factory warranty. The World's largest non biased Shelby Cobra related site! Register now for free! The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo . There's a story about the one Bill Cosby bought new that pretty much ends with him just saying no after one time behind the wheel . How much you put into a build is also very specific to what you want to do. BMW Garage: BMW Meets: Register: Today's Posts: Search: . I have seen a few at C&C and although they are very cool and air seems like an option they appear to give up a LOT of visibility compared to the open Cobra. One of the things that can make the Cobra so much more special, is what makes my Super 7 so much fun - it's the "look at me" aspect. to tiring in about three blocks. YES! I have a Backdraft Cobra. Great reputation btw. Forums. 4. Turned in too late? Welcome to Club Cobra! Dont get me wrong- some guys build them and do a VERY nice job, but for me factory built was the way to go. I want to register an account for free right now! Nostalgic Motoring Company, an official dealer for Backdraft, is excited to offer the opportunity to take home this brand new 1965 Backdraft Cobra RT4B replica with plenty of attitude. I am not a Cobra expert and not that familiar with all the differences between the makes out there. This can't be normal. Friends who have run a race shop for more than 40 years, and who used to be a Caterham dealer (ie final assembler), are building a Daytona Coupe from theFFR kit. It also won't burn your wrist when you touch the road (which you should do because why not). That said, if you are buying pre-built, from what I have seen they seem to hold their value pretty well. Threads 79 Messages . After doing my research about 10 years ago, I was set on getting a Cobra built by Backdraft Racing. 3) Good question - I'm actually building my Cobrafor track duty (IRS, 427W engine, Tremec 5-speed, Wilwood brakes with front/back bias adjustment, etc.). If you want to go fast buy a factory five spec car and go nuts with the adjustable uppers and lower control arms and have a set of shocks made by breeze or find and fit some motons. MK4 7869, gen 1 Coyote, TR-3650, 3-link . Members: 182,785. Edit: I should point out that this car was purchased as a turn key car from Backdraft. A 'Vette is just a 'Vette. if you want a cool car, the cobra might get the nod - especially being a convertible as you get to see and smile at more people. 2) If you are looking at a Superformanceor Backdraft the build quality is kind of a wash as they are all built in-house. The World's largest Corvettes get attn too, but more negative than the cobra. Its got a Ford Stroker and a TKO600 Suspension. The Backdraft is a nice car. It was fun though! #bu, Saturday night cruise after Barrett Jackson. To protect Backdraft's great titanium finish, we had them add the front and rear 3M Invisalign protection. It's 1950's British car weather protection. The bushings look bad to me but no one has suggested thats the cause. It this legal?" News, Rumors and Announcements. I thought the body style differences were interesting. I had an idea to just get the complete frame and just build a new body. Absolutely incredible way to do driving events. The only one I put a wrench on was the bottom front bushing bolt. Two Locost Seven Frames and Various Parts $1000 - NMNA - FBM - Romulus, MI (Detroit suburb). non biased Shelby Cobra related site! The passenger side spring isn't square to the body like the driver's side. The price is unlisted, but feel free to contact Nostalgic Motoring and submit an offer. For safety, the car features a stainless-steel roll bar and Cam lock-style SABELT seatbelts. Private. They come as a rolling chassis, as opposed to FFR which is a kit. Club Cobra Introduction Forum (introduce yourself) 04-27-2023 12:08 AM. CONNECT WITH . Somewhere in all of that discussion there is surely some good information regarding PATS, fuel pumps and steering. Nostalgic Motoring Ltd. is offering the opportunity to take home this stunning and brand new 1965 Backdraft Cobra RT4B. What's in it? . Maybe it's because of the 92" wheelbase instead of the FFR 90". YES! YES! Hey guys im in the market to buy a sports car and im down to 3 cars. I want to say that the suspension was E46 BMW? Cobra Make, Engine: 427 manowar forged crank roller rockers . This Cobra is sinister when it comes to both looks and performance. Peek inside the Cobra to a black leather and Alcantara interior with red double diamond stitching. Both the BDR and SPF are made in South Africa, FFR is home built and USA proud. It brings smiles to peoples faces seeing something different. I too have been following this. : For registered members this ad will NOT show. For the record, I actually liked the shifter Not sure how one would do a remote shifter, if you wanted a "traditional" shifter angle then you might be able to build a V8 T5 with a truck case so the shifter comes out a lot more forward. Home. You are much more hidden in the corvette. Depending on the engine they weigh around 2400 lbs. The Gateway Cobra Club is the premier meeting place for fans of the Shelby American automobiles: Cobra Roadster, Daytona Coupe and GT40. All rights reserved. non biased Shelby Cobra related site! Upgrading steering. Its got a Ford Stroker and a TKO600 Suspension. I can put you in touch if you want. Wow I really love this car, you guys are lucky. Their build quality is on point, and the car's aesthetics are extremely similar to the original Cobra at a much lower price point than it's expensive rivals (Superformance, Kirkham, etc.) But it really depends what you want out of your car. Those familiar with Shelby Cobras can vouch for the excellent reputation held by Backdraft Racing for their high-quality, factory-built replica cars. Where did you see Backdraft for $46K? Have you removed the dust cover on the flange side of the axle and checked the flange bolts? Trunk carpeting was pretty poor. Threads: 93,379, p.s. YES! BIG CAM. It was a beautiful engine to look at, but was problematic. You are using an out of date browser. Someone earlier mentioned running a quieter exhaust under the car. Backdraft Racings renowned attention to detail makes every custom roadster and authentic replica the very best available. http://thefactoryfiveforum.com/showte-build-thread, Suspension, Steering and Brakes - 289 FIA/USRRC, Suspension, Steering and Brakes - 33 HotRod, Ford Modular 5.0 "Coyote" Install and tuning, If this is your first visit, be sure to How driving instruction can make you faster on track. non biased Shelby Cobra related site! (REGISTERED USERS DO NOT SEE THIS POST/AD! The BDR dealer in Tomball Tx (NW houston) James Yale owner of Radical Roadsters. Cobra certainly rougher around the edges than a Z06. New posts Search forums. Manufacturers, Engine Builders, tools, and parts. 1965 Backdraft Racing Cobra in Arlington, TX I had to raise the roll hoop for the guy so he could pass the broom stick test with his helmet and the hoop was sealed with approximately 6 full size cartridges of clear silicone haphazardly squirted near the holes. Set it up poorly and you will have an uncomfortable pig that wants to kill you. They make hooligans with unmuffled Harleys seem quiet and reserved. They can be built to almost any level of performance and capability. I don't know much about it and there isn't a lot of discussions on this forum about this so I was wondering if anyone can help me answer the following questions: 1.
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